IFS-Informed EMDR

The Internal Family Systems Interweave - now 6 CEUs

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Dates and Locations

March 27, 2020 Altoona, PA

*May 4, 2020 Brooklyn, NY *(must register through NACHAS Consulting)

September 18, 2020 Washington, DC Area/Arlington, VA

Register early. Workshops have been selling out months in advance.


Registrants for IFS-Informed EMDR must have completed EMDR basic training and have familiarity with the IFS model either through workshop or retreat experience.

This workshop does not provide training in either model. It assumes participants have knowledge of both. Reading IFS doesn't quite do it sometimes. There is a process aspect to it, and experiential, video, or demo exposure gets that across in a way that reading does not. If you do not meet this requirement, use the time before the workshop to meet the IFS prerequisite.

My experience has shown that participants with minimal IFS experience struggle to integrate the material, especially in practice exercises. If you haven't already begun to use IFS principles in your practice, you will not optimally benefit from the workshop.

Links to providers of IFS workshops to satisfy prerequisite:

The Center for Self-Leadership

Derek Scott/IFSCA

Jay Earley, PhD/Personal Growth Programs

Lois Ehrmann, PhD/The Individual & Family CHOICES Program

New online option: IFS for EMDR Therapists at emdrifs.com

Santa Fe, NM 10/4/2019

Friday October 4, 2019 -- 9:00-5:00

Best Western Inn at Santa Fe, 8376 Cerrillos Rd, Santa Fe, New Mexico 87507

For special accommodations contact Bruce Hersey, LCSW at (814) 944-3852 or brucehersey@gmail.com.

Limited space, sign up early! NOW EMDRIA APPROVED!

Brooklyn, NY 5/4/20

Monday May 4, 2020 -- 9:00-5:00


For program info contact Bruce Hersey, LCSW at (814) 944-3852 or brucehersey@gmail.com.

Limited space, sign up early! NOW EMDRIA APPROVED!

Washington, DC Area 9/18/20

Friday September 18, 2020 -- 9:00-5:00

Residence Inn Rosslyn, 1651 N Oak St, Arlington, VA 22209

For special accommodations contact Bruce Hersey, LCSW at (814) 944-3852 or brucehersey@gmail.com.

Limited space, sign up early! NOW EMDRIA APPROVED!

Approved for 6.0 CE hours by EMDRIA, CSL, ASWB & NBCC

Approved by the Center for Self-Leadership for 6.0 CE hours toward IFS recertification, and 6.0 CE hours by ASWB & NBCC.

Approved by EMDRIA for 6.0 CE credits.

Registration fee is $175 for 6 hour IFS-Informed EMDR.

Register here or Email Bruce.

Cancellation Policy: Will refund fee less $30 until 30 days before workshop date.

No refunds after that.


This workshop presents a specific view of ego states in the context of EMDR therapy & proposes additional practical scales besides SUD & VOC for measuring their properties, as well as elaborating useful ways of obtaining target elements in the assessment phase, by superimposing IFS concepts upon the standard protocol.

If you are like many other EMDR practitioners, you have found yourself at times struggling with ego states, resistance, overwhelm, and difficulties establishing target states & maintaining effective dual attention. Francine Shapiro understood this early on when she supplemented the Standard Protocol with the Cognitive Interweave. Many others have since suggested various other interweaves and supplementary or alternative protocols, as well as Resource Development and Installation (RDI).

Internal Family Systems, a systemic ego state model, when superimposed on the EMDR process provides an illuminating map of the process and can serve as a guide in selecting appropriate interweaves or interventions at critical points throughout the EMDR standard protocol.

Participants will learn that functional Dual Attention requires Self-Presence and the co-presence or activation of a Target Part in relationship to the Self. This workshop promotes the understanding that many problems commonly encountered in EMDR can be averted by recognizing this principle, and applying simple practices taught here.

While adhering to the standard definition of EMDR, the workshop compares IFS concepts to those used in EMDR and provides additional perspective to the IFS-trained EMDR therapist with regard to the appearance of ego states, defenses, and relational phenomena, especially as they transpire in the course of phases 3 and 4.

These methods will be demonstrated via actual session clips and guided individual experiential exercises. Learn to integrate these two models in creative new ways, enhanced by some Coherence Therapy concepts derived from Memory Reconsolidation research.

Program Outline

  1. Defining Dual Attention: Energy, Ego States, Self & the Protective System
  2. Measuring the Energy: EMDR & IFS Scales
  3. Optimizing Target Conditions: IFS-Informed Assessment Phase

Course Objectives

After completing this workshop, participants will be able to:

  1. Name one advantageous aspect of the IFS concept of Self that is not explicitly included in EMDR’s Adaptive Information Processing (AIP) system.
  2. Explain the relationship between functional Dual Attention and Self-Presence.
  3. Describe the concept of energy as it applies to Protective Parts and how this can be measured and processed within EMDR.
  4. Describe the concept of energy as it applies to qualities of Self and how these can be measured and installed as a resource within EMDR.
  5. Name at least one way that IFS language can used in obtaining a PC or VOC.

Workshop Leader and Consultant

Bruce Hersey, LCSW, is an Approved Consultant in EMDR and also a Certified IFS Therapist. Having completed IFS Levels One, Two & Three Training, and as a repeat Level One Program Assistant he has passionately imparted his deep understanding of the model by teaching numerous introductory IFS workshops, leading IFS consultation groups, and providing individual IFS consultation. He has presented at the IFS International Conference several times, and has been teaching workshops on the integration of EMDR & IFS since 2013.

In addition to all this, Bruce is an Approved Consultant in Clinical Hypnosis through ASCH and a Certified Sex Therapist Supervisor through AASECT. Bruce has also published short animated educational introduction videos on IFS (Finding Your Parts) and EMDR (EMDR at a Glance) on YouTube.

An LCSW in private practice at Altoona, PA for the past 30 years, Bruce provides advanced consultation in IFS, EMDR, Clinical Hypnosis and Sex Therapy in person, by phone and online video conferencing.

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What people are saying about this workshop:

"Thank you for the workshop. I haven't used EMDR for a few years, and I'm very excited to try using it again WITHIN THE IFS FRAMEWORK as you so clearly showed/ instructed. ALTHOUGH WHEN I DID USE EMDR, I FOUND IT BENEFICIAL, THERE WAS SOMETHING MISSING FOR ME WHICH IS WHY I STOPPED USING IT. I feel like I am getting back the money I invested in the two levels of EMDR training, so thanks again!"

Sherry Rubin, LCSW

“I have been using EMDR Therapy extensively for more than a decade. The IFS-Informed EMDR Training has expanded my toolkit in ways that have re-energized my practice. EMDR and IFS are natural partners, and my clients are benefitting.”

Sonja Lindgren, MSS, LCSW

"I have already begun using your approach with my clients. It went beautifully!!! Much thanks! I've been to some of these things and been lucky to walk away with a small idea - this was one of the best I've attended!"

Deborah Reilly, LPC, NBCC

“Don't give up on all the time, money and energy you invested in learning EMDR. Bruce has masterfully integrated EMDR and IFS. His practical workshop shows how to weave the best of these two evidence-based therapies into one elegant approach. His gentle teaching style and videos show exactly how to blend these powerful methods, resulting in a synergistic effect. Thank you, Bruce!”

Lawrence Wentworth, Ph.D. Licensed Psychologist

"So appreciate your presence and solid teaching style. Loved your demos."

Sabine Boots, LMFT

"I feel like I am taking away a renewed interest in, and capacity for, including EMDR in my practice again. Your map and your ideas on how IFS and EMDR interweave, gave me a much clearer sense of how to do this. Your demos were especially helpful in showing this process. I also deeply appreciate your style, your energy and your being so real in presenting this wealth of awareness you have of how different models weave together. It was well worth my trip."

Gary Whited, Ph.D.

"Thank you for for sharing your knowledge, I know I will utilize it with clients. It was an informative and well planned day!"

Lynn Benjamin, MEd, LMFT, CACD

"Thank you for an enriching day. I appreciated your easy style and relaxed manner. It made for an atmosphere of safety."

Susan Carpenter, LCSW

"Thanks for sharing your concepts and experience combining IFS with EMDR. I found your delivery easy to follow, well prepared, and well-executed with a helpful mixture of lecture, demonstrations and personal applications. With this knowledge, I look forward to increasing my effectiveness in helping my clients."

Kevin Medican, MS, LPC, CSAT, CMAT

"This workshop is an exciting and informative benefit to the prospect of integrating EMDR and IFS. Bruce offers grounded, theory-based explanations, drawing from case examples and obvious clinical experience, that can renew any interest & belief in the efficacy of these two approaches, especially as one informs the other."

Gail Vant Zelfde, PhD, Licensed Psychologist

"Bruce clarified and explained several puzzling issues that I regularly encountered with EMDR alone. IFS added needed elements that addressed them. He conveyed the essential truths of both systems from a human point of view aside from the many technical terms that are otherwise used.

I used his functional dual attention framework immediately. Having systematic scales, and differentiating parts, adds to my buddhist mindfulness/ narrative psycho-therapeutic approach (which already works pretty good most of the time). Not all the time. I'm definitely adding these tools from the workshop."

Martha W. Bush, LMFT

"Bruce’s easy-going, accepting manner creates the kind of safe environment that optimizes learning and vulnerable sharing."

Ellen Watson, MSS

"Your consistent playful manner assisted with separating the parts. I enjoyed observing your style. Thank you again!

Lois Reinhardt, LCSW

"Very well organized, interesting and concise introduction to the blending of IFS and EMDR.

I do hope that Bruce can do more of these workshops beyond the introductory level and continue enlighten us with more of his amazing clinical work & true talent for engaging clients. "

Lucienne Despota, LCSW

"Thank you for a great workshop. It clarified many questions I have had. How even to re-engage in using EMDR, as I was tangled up between what I remember of protocols & finding it not very helpful because of all the parts that show up with my very complex PTSD clients. I now have hope that I will be able to open up some new doors for myself and my clients and find ways to most creatively use both EMDR and IFS tools for them and for myself."

Sharon Fisher, LCSW

"It is a relief to attend a training that is so comprehensive and integrating of various materials. Bruce clearly has a lot of knowledge about EMDR and IFS. He has developed a wonderful weaving of these approaches, theory and practice, with creativity and focus on “being with” the client."

Ann Friedenheim, LPC